Georgia

Louise Dempsey is the business representative for UFCW Local 1996 in Atlanta. She spoke with LMP communications consultant Laureen Lazarovici about her experiences as a union activist in the South.

In the late ’60s and early ’70s, my mom worked for the Social Security Administration. She transferred often for her job, so we moved a lot. She was in the union, and she organized two of the offices she got transferred to in order to get better benefits. One was in the hills of Tennessee, where there were a lot of coal mines and a lot of poverty. She once worked for a group of attorneys and mobilized her co-workers to get better wages. There was a lot of disparity in pay in terms of gender and race. Sometimes, they didn’t exactly like her. She earned the reputation as the go-to person. People would say, “If anybody can get it done, it’s Mildred.”

Unions at Kaiser Permanente

And today, here we are in the South. It is not strong union territory. Because of Georgia’s so-called “right to work” law, employees can work for KP here whether they join the union or not [in contrast to KP regions in other states with stronger worker protection laws]. But people join because they know that the stronger we are, the more we can stand up for ourselves. We have to talk to folks about the benefits of working for a unionized company. I worked for KP as an LVN before there was a union. Our wages were all over the place and assignments were based on favoritism. We’ve had people come to work for KP because it’s unionized.

When they hear about the Labor Management Partnership, they say, “I’ll sign up.” They understand they have a voice, they can be part of a UBT, they can affect the direction their team is going, and say what they need and want and be heard. Sure, we have to educate managers, but we have to educate employees about unions, too. When I talk at new employee orientation, I tell them we are there as a mediator, facilitator, advisor. You are not by yourself anymore. I’ve got your back and your front and your side, too. With the Labor Management Partnership, KP is always offering opportunities for employees to learn, like the Ben Hudnall Memorial Trust. I have been in the medical field for 30 years, and folks are always thirsting for more knowledge.

Getting used to a new way of doing things

Folks in management come into Kaiser and they are not used to unions or the partnership. We have to educate them: We have a union, we have a contract, we have a partnership. We educate them about a union environment and also that we are not the traditional head-butting adversarial union.

Normally, when I go into a meeting at KP, there is not a whole bunch of posturing. People want to get to a solution. There is no name-calling, finger-pointing or yelling. It makes a difference. Partnership benefits the local because I have open access to the employees. I went to five facilities recently. I was not stopped once. It is always, “Hi, how are you, who do you need to see?” My co-workers at the local who represent employees at other companies don’t all have that. KP has not relegated me to a break room or to certain hours. I can have a bulletin board in the break room. I have the time to speak with new hires during orientation. They don’t censor the questions the employees ask or the ones I answer. That’s partnership.

David Jones, MD, works in the Georgia region with the Southeast Permanente Medical Group. He has been with the medical group for more than 11 years, and currently works in the Panola Medical Office. He spoke with LMP senior communications consultant Julie Light.

Q. What is your partnership role?

A. My role with the Labor Management Partnership in Georgia is assistant to the medical director for unit-based teams. I serve as the physician regional co-lead for all the UBTs for the region. I’m excited about this role and how it can help engage our physicians.In this role, I work closely with all of the teams, with a particular focus around supporting the physicians and helping them understand the value of UBTs and how UBTs really can improve what we do day to day in the offices and how they can improve the care for patients. It also means removing any potential barriers that the physicians may face, or anticipate, to allow them to be more engaged with the UBT process.  Another part of my role is working with our unit-based team’s resource team. In that capacity, I bring more of a clinical perspective to UBTs.

Q. How do teams improve care?

A. A project I had personal involvement with was the pediatric team at our Panola office, which addressed ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) medication management. Before our UBT project, we were meeting the goal of having a follow-up visit within 30 days approximately 25 percent of the time. Through our UBT work, we increased those results to reaching and sustaining a rate above 90 percent after three months.

Q. Why haven’t more physicians embraced partnership?

A. The first thing I tell physicians about the UBTs is that it is about improving the work that we’re already doing. It’s not about adding more work, it’s about looking at the work that you're doing and figuring out how to do it better.

I think one of the barriers physicians face has been just lack of understanding. It wasn’t clear to physicians the value that UBTs can bring to the team. So it’s taking the UBT process and putting that into terms that are meaningful to physicians. Time is always a barrier for most people, and particularly for physicians. That’s why it’s important to have them understand that it’s not about doing more or working harder, it’s about working better. This is a very new way of thinking about teamwork. It’s about the physician being engaged and involved and still having a leadership role, but also embracing the value and the input, perspectives, talents and skills of the whole team, and understanding how everybody can share the same goal and work together and improve the accountability across the board.

What it really takes is physicians and teams going through the process. I can talk with them all I want, and tell them how it is in theory, but once they start to go through the process and see the results, and see how morale and efficiency improves—that’s when they become believers.